Talk:Abyssal One

Dead
Isley is dead. The manga directly says so, see proof below:

1. chapter 89 page 15: Dietrich: "Isley is going to fall."

2. chapter 89 pages 26-27: Isley looks dead to me, nearly eaten in half already by the AFs. Not to mention his death farewell and regrets speech.

3. chapter 89 pages 30-31: Black Coats' meeting: "We have received word that Isley has been defeated in the southern land.

4. chapter 90 pages 4-5: (too much dialogue to write out. Basically, Galatea confirms as well that Isley is dead)

HegemonKhan 08:52, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Luciela is dead too. Crushed to death by Rafaela. Also, Rafaela then failed to bring Luciela back to life (via sacrificing her own life to transfer it into dead Luciela's body to revive her back to life, in some kind of "life transfer and thus god-like" yoki ability), instead ending up in a failed and incomplete state, with her body half-merged with Luciela's STILL dead body and mind. Thus Luciela is dead, in body and mind. However, her body, along with Rafaela's body, obviously still exists as they became the Destroyer's body.

HegemonKhan 08:59, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Abyssal One
But it's not No.1's that awakened, it's very powerful Claymores that awaken, that are more powerful that most Claymores... a regular no.1 would not make an Abyssal One, they have to be one of the superpowered no.1s. One of the weaker number ones, that only first amongst equals (singles) is not abyssal. It'd have to be one of the top among No.1s (or those with potential, aka Priscilla) ... They've said that some No.1s aren't all that much more than other singles before.

70.24.247.54 09:34, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * "Abyssal One" refers ONLY to awakened number ones, without taking in count his skills (i don't think they're "regular" number ones). 03:44, February 9, 2012 (UTC)